{"id":394,"date":"2015-11-07T08:02:08","date_gmt":"2015-11-07T12:02:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/?p=394"},"modified":"2015-11-07T08:02:08","modified_gmt":"2015-11-07T12:02:08","slug":"finished-languages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/?p=394","title":{"rendered":"Finished languages"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Why can&#8217;t they leave well enough alone. The C++ people won&#8217;t be happy until they&#8217;ve turned C in to java and python and erlang and lisp.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t get it, sometimes languages actually get finished. And sometimes people feel the need to make things &#8220;better&#8221; (in the progress sense) rather than make something new.<\/p>\n<p>C itself was finished. Things like binutils are finished. Nobody feels the need to change ls all the time.<br \/>\nWhy is it that some things can be left alone and some have to be ego-ed to death?<\/p>\n<p>A friend of mine told me this story about how he was interviewing somebody for a C++ job and they didn&#8217;t know what a pointer was.<\/p>\n<p>He thought this outlandish, but to me it makes sense. They have added so much crap to C++ that they&#8217;re trying to turn it into a new language.<\/p>\n<p>If you read the internoise, you&#8217;ll see people say native C arrays are bad in C++. It took me a long time to figure out what they meant by that.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s nothing actually wrong withe native C arrays, they&#8217;re just &#8216;dangerous&#8217; for people who only know how to use the &#8216;new&#8217; C++ where you don&#8217;t have to know what pointers are.<\/p>\n<p>Why is this a problem? You could say &#8220;Well, smarty pants, just don&#8217;t use the new features you don&#8217;t like.&#8221; And I&#8217;m all for that, that&#8217;s exactly what I do. I use the good early parts and leave the line noise alone.<\/p>\n<p>But alas, maybe I work with other people who suffer from that ancient programmer&#8217;s ailment have having to play with all the cool new toys as soon as they&#8217;re discovered and you find yourself working on line noise.<\/p>\n<p>So what languages have been finished.<\/p>\n<p>Well, assembly language changes as they add features to processors. I suppose there&#8217;s no getting around that.<\/p>\n<p>Fortran I think is done.<\/p>\n<p>Cobol is done.<\/p>\n<p>C is done.<\/p>\n<p>Bash is done.<\/p>\n<p>C++ can&#8217;t be left alone.<\/p>\n<p>PHP can&#8217;t be left alone, there&#8217;s some great rants about that.<\/p>\n<p>And python seems to also be in update hell, so there&#8217;s python and python3 binaries&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>What else&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why can&#8217;t they leave well enough alone. The C++ people won&#8217;t be happy until they&#8217;ve turned C in to java and python and erlang and lisp. I don&#8217;t get it, sometimes languages actually get finished. And sometimes people feel the need to make things &#8220;better&#8221; (in the progress sense) rather than make something new. C [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-394","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-notes"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/394","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=394"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/394\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":397,"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/394\/revisions\/397"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=394"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=394"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/deadpelican.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=394"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}